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Discussion in 'General Aquarium Discussion' started by Turbo, Feb 18, 2013.

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  1. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    This is a journal of the makeover of a tank that I have been (shoddily) maintaining for the last few years. It is located in a Japanese Hibachi Grill type steakhouse in the Des Moines, Iowa area.

    A short background:

    When I first approached the owner of this tank in Spring of 2010, here is now the tank looked:

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    Needless to say, Nitrates were >800 and I couldn't even test P with any accuracy. The tank also had a Charlie Brown pattern across the front where someone had gouged the inside panel with a Mag-Float. I emptied the tank, QTd the fish, sanded & polished the tank, and refilled it. I used the existing bioballs to avoid anything more than a mini-cycle (successfully) The Yellow Tang made it about a month, then freaked out (I think the light timer got flipped to the "on" position, and no one turned it off), bled out, and died.

    The filter system up until now has consisted of a filter pad, drip tray over bio-balls, and a generic skimmer.

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    I re-stocked the tank with fish from an LFS, most of them eventually died. I added a few fish I bought from local club members, and most of them are still alive.

    The tank was generally over-fed, but what are you going to do. Performing anything over a 20% PWC was difficult, and didn't seem to make a dent. The existing sump was not friendly to any kind of algae scrubber setup at the time. The new feeding-based guidelines then came out, but it was still problematic. The owner sold the restaurant and the new owners eventually decided that they wanted the system to have more fish, and perhaps a coral reef.

    Here is the tank now:

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    I added an L2 Algae Scrubber, but after months of running it - no results. I started a thread to help determine the problem. Long story shot is that when I originally tore the tank down, I sprayed the rocks with bleack, powerwashed, and soaked them in freshwater/prime, etc, but this does nothing to release stored up nutrients - I should have soaked them in acid. The cyano and red algae growth in the tank is not as bad as it used to be, but still pretty bad, and this combined with high phosphate seems to be inhibiting GHA growth on the scrubber all I get is gel-like algae that clogs the slot pipe rather easily, and a bare screen everywhere else.

    So the solution was going to be to QT the fish, acid soak the rocks, and set it up again. Which did worry me, as I feared losing fish again.

    Then, something dropped in my lap: a friend in the local club decided to get out, and tear down his 220 Reef system. I bought all of his Live Rock, Substrate, and fish. Here is what his system looked like (he had already sold all his corals):

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    He lived about 75 minutes away. Me and a buddy hopped in my minivan with the sto-n-go seats and headed out. Got there around 9am, left around 12:45, and got to my home at around 2:15. The van was at maximum capacity: 24 5g buckets, 2 7g buckets, a 20g Brute can and 32g Brute can (with big rocks and 1/3 full of water), on top of that, 3 totes w/misc stuff including a Geo Kalk reactor and a 100g poly mixing station. It was a low-ri-der.

    A few hours later, all the fish were in their temporary home. The night before, I had plumbed in my utility sink, ran a dedicated electric circuit (lucky for me, discovered a "future" circuit wire, 20A circuit, in the perfect location) and set up an borrow 5' 120. I had to also set up a 40B as there was ust too much rock.

    After a few more hours, and getting some loaned light fixtures, I had circulation, heating and lighting in place.

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    Rio 1100, MJ-1200, MP10 (borrowed)

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    Kessils (borrowed) over the 40B, one blue, one white

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    Tangs (8" Vlamingi, Yellow, Desjardini Sailfin)

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    Chromis (12 Blue/Green, 9 Reef) and one big honking wicked cool rock, a plate/cap (not a live coral). I call it the Fish Satellite Dish.

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    Coral Beauty Angel

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    Lawnmower Blenny

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    Other fish not pictured:

    Flameback Angel
    Bicolor Angel
    Goby & Pistol Shrimp Pair
    Reef Chromis (hiding) 9 of them
    Blue Damsel (a calm one)

    I got all the Live Sand also, as well as snails, hermits, and other crabs (including one of the biggest emerald crabs I have ever seen)

    After all was done - cleanup time.

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    Here is the Geo Kalk Reactor (for my use, or on another tank)

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    and the 100g mixing station (full tunrkey setup, pump and all)

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    ...and here they shall stay, until the next big move, in 2 weeks.

    In the meantime, I will be re-working the filtration system and planning out the rock scaping.
     
  2. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    Also a side note, the new filtration system will have filter socks, bioballs (temporarily, only), a skimmer, and an algae scrubber in a 40B with a custom insert for the intake and filter socks
     
  3. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    Well the long weekend reeked havoc on my body, and it fought back. I pretty much completely lost my voice starting Sunday night and it seemed to get better, then worse today. So now I'm on steroids. So don't anyone go ticking me off right now. LOL

    Anyways been testing the H2O and the 40B tank w/most of the corals/angels/clown/goby/shrimp/blenny is doing great.

    On the big tank, I seem to have a trace of ammonia that won't go away. I thought I originally counted 12 blue/green chromis and now I only can seem to ever count 11, and the Reef Chromis are always hiding in the rock. All other fish accounted for but since the bigger fish are in the 120, I've been feeding them more.

    Monday I mixed up about 30g of SW and did a small PWC on both tanks. Got 30g of RODI standing by to mix up if needed.

    So I stopped at Seascapes and picked up a multi-filter pad and wrapped that around the media cartridge for my 20 yr old and still reliable Marineland Magnum 330 canister and hooked that bad boy up. No change today, still a trace of ammonia. So I'm going to sacrifice filtration on my personal 120 and take the UAS test unit off that and put it on the temp 120 as I feel it needs it more.

    ~10 days left to the next move. Snagged a used Reef Octopus NWB-150 to replace their POS generic skimmer, as well as a BRS Dual Carbon/GFO reactor, 'cause they're gonna need it probably.
     
  4. sabbath

    sabbath Member Trusted Member Customer

    Maybe bounce the UAS back and forth for a couple weeks? Depending on the ammonia levels?
     
  5. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    I was going to put the UAS on the temp 120 and then set up my waterfall L2 on my personal one (finally) and get that screen started, then once I do the full transfer to the final tank I can put the UAS on my tank again and the battle can begin
     
  6. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    Started on the new sump insert this week.

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    Chamber walls

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    Overflow Channel

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    I also bonded the back on then called it a night. More pics coming tonight.
     
  7. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    Here is the back panel bonded on

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    Holes cut in the front panel for drainage into the sump and overflow points as well

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    Bonding

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    Added a strip for holding filter sock holders and/or drip trays

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    Next step is to make the top euro and covers.
     
  8. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    After much input from others on another thread http://www.greateriowareefsociety.org/Forums/tabid/78/aft/29971/Default.aspx (thanks to GIRS members mfisher for the advice and sponge for the mortar, and Marc w/Marco Rocks for taking a call) here is how I plan to do the structure. The first structure will be the larger one, on the left side of the tank, using the rocks I got from BigD's tear down. The second structure will be other rocks from my stock, and will be done in stages over the course of many weeks.

    The Marco Rocks bonding mortar needs 20 minutes before it can be submerged, and more like 45-60 minutes until it is more structurally reliable, then fully cures in several more hours (overnight). Because I want to do this a little faster than that, I'm going to use epoxy and rubble rock in combination with the mortar.

    After draining and emptying the tank, I will build the first structure in stages.

    The first level will be base rock. It will have putty epoxy "feet" on it to keep it from moving. I will probably cut little sections of egg crate to set these on so that the putty doesn't contact the bottom of the tank, and to give it a little spread footing if you will. Then I will fill the tank with enough water to partially submerge the rocks.

    The level or two will be intermediary. I will create 3-point connections between each rock using a combination of putty and rubble rock (when needed), and when I have each level stable and in the final position, I will fill in the middle with the Marco mortar and let it cure for about 45 minutes, and keep wet towels over the rocks to keep them from drying out. After 45 minutes, I will raise the water level with each stage to submerge the rocks and the new mortar joints. This way, I can safely build the structure up as the putty epoxy and rubble rock is actually the primary support until the mortar cures fully.

    The final level will be the big plate rock (satellite dish). This will need a good base rock and lots of putty and mortar, and probably some temporary support so that it stays balanced and in the desired position.

    I will fill the tank and get the filtration system set up, then call it a day.

    A few other things I plan on doing:

    - covering the mortar with some substrate to give it a more natural look
    - Using the mortar to make little shelves for frag plugs and discs, for the future

    The next step will be to transport the fish and substrate. The tank will be full of new saltwater, so I will have to drain it down as low as I can, add the substrate, then fill it back up with a combination of the drained water and water from the temp tank, and let the filtration run for a bit longer. So now I'll have water in the tank that is a mixture of new tank water and water from the temp tank, then I would acclimate the fish using some left-over new water pulled out of the tank. After doing a few stages of water exchange between the tank, extra water, and water in buckets with fish in them, they should be well acclimated and I will transfer the fish to their new home.

    The second rock structure will happen a few weeks later, after things have settled down a bit, and all the fish have adjusted to their new home.

    This second structure will be smaller, and on the right half of the tank. I will likely be using dry base rock, so this structure will go into the tank in stages. I will build the structure the same way, except it will be done on a bench. I will build the entire structure and use the epoxy & rubble rock technique to make the structure fit together. Then I will apply the Marco mortar in such a way that the rocks will seat together, take the rocks apart, and let the mortar set. The end result will be a set of rocks that have perfect 'seats' in which to interlock into each other. Then I can add a few rocks at a time. I may cure the rocks before adding them to keep the tank stable. I haven't decided yet, but it is probably the better course of action. I'm not worried about the rocks throwing off ammonia as they will be nuked with a Muriatic Acid bath, followed by a Vinegar bath and much power washing and soaking prior to any structuring work. But, the system will be running a scrubber, which sucks up ammonia like a mop. Can't be too safe though.

    So that's the plan. As long as I can get over my 1 month string of illness, I should be able to get this whole process started very soon.
     
  9. sabbath

    sabbath Member Trusted Member Customer

    Looking forward to seeing what you do for ideas on my own systems. :) I like the mortar idea. The look of PVC in between rocks is what has stopped me in the past.
     
  10. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    A few more pics.

    Drilled the 40B. A little chip out, but no cracks. Yay.

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    Eurobrace for the sump insert

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    Next is to make the lids and filter sock holders.
     
  11. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    Last weekend was a killer. Before it all began, I finished the sump insert

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    Then with the help of a handful of local reef addicts, I got the tank drained and cleaned out, and did the aquascaping with the new rock on Saturday

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    Pulled out the old sump (can you say "salt creep"?)

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    Sunday, I worked for several hours installing the new sump and plumbing.

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    Intake strainers (crosscuts on underside)

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    Iwaki 30's on each side

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    Plumbing for drain and return

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    Sump insert

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    This was all great until I tried to start the pumps. The strainer pipes cause an airlocking issue, meaning that there was air trapped in the pipes and the pumps would not start. On top of that, I had plumbing leaks all over. I discovered this at the zero hour, where we were getting ready to put the fish in (which were in buckets). So we fired up power heads in the DT and acclimated the fish and called it a day.

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    Of course I get home and everyone wanted to go there for dinner

    I got a few of these on the house

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    Had to take a partial vacation day on Monday (the only day during the week that they are not open for lunch) and fix the plumbing. I drilled holes in the intake pipes in the sump to let air out, and they fired up now problem. The leaks were another issue.

    On the pump return lines, where the plumbing goes from 1" to 3/4" and then into the 3/4" bulkheads (all high pressure points), there were leaks. I use TFE paste and I never will again. I know you are "supposed to" use TFE on PVC fittings to prevent crack out, but I never will again. After 2 hours of messing with fittings, I got one side running with minimal leaks, and the other side was still leaking too much and I had to shut that pump down and drain the return lines.

    So right now the system is running on one pump, which is fine. Filter socks are doing their job, old skimmer is in place (will be replaced with a Reef Octopus NW-150). Sump insert isn't perfect, but works pretty well. I already have 2 or 3 requests for building one of these!

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    The next problem is the cycle. Tested 0.5ppm ammonia the other day so I've been dosing Prime to keep it all locked up and non-toxic. Prime is great and used in FW all the time...us saltys forget about that stuff sometimes!

    Algae scrubber will go on ASAP as well. Need to make a stand for it in the sump and mod the light fixture for the dual half power blues setup, lower the side drain so it is compatible with ultra-high flow. Once the screen is cured, I'm going to be putting well over 400 GPH across the screen.
     
  12. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    Forgot the FTS from Monday Evening

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  13. Turbo

    Turbo Does not really look like Johnny Carson Staff Member Site Owner Multiple Units! Customer

    Algae Scrubber was installed on or around March 17th. It's been such a blur lately!! Anyways, here is how I installed it, I made a frame from 1/2" PVC and 3-way elbows, worked pretty well! This is a Rev 1 L2 - I don't have any of the Rev 2's in operation personally, they all go out the door as soon as I can finish them :) [​IMG] 16 days Growth on 4/2 (no cleaning performed) [​IMG] I decided to just let it grow 4/9, 25 days growth [​IMG] Cleaning on 4/10, 26 days (normally, I would not recommend letting a screen go this long!) [​IMG] False bottom [​IMG] Clean screen [​IMG]
     

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